I have to admit though, this is a strange heirloom to pass down through family generations. Seriously was his great great great great grandfather an 19th century school teacher?
What inspired this page? Just it is a little strange.
Well really the idea originally was to get across the idea that Fred’s mother might not have been the gentlest of parents. It’s been a long time since I wrote the script for this page, though. I re-wrote it somewhat to fit in better with the current goings-on in the comic.
Fair enough, not the worst thing I have heard used to punish kids in fiction.
In borderlands there is a weapon called “Grandma’s Buzz axe,” which is a weapon that was used to punish handsome Jack “The Buzz Axe is a disciplinary weapon used by Handsome Jack’s grandmother. About as painful as it looks.”
Children do need discipline and ‘spanking’ is a tradition that is acceptable and all, but some parents get carried away with the feeling of power they get from it. It is particularly the case when the parent feels they have no power on the rest of their life.
The problem is exactly that… parents need ‘self-discipline’ before they can administer ‘discipline’ to their offspring.
As many times as I disagree with the self-proclaimed experts on many subjects (particularly on moral issues), that statement needs no argument.
I like particularly the ‘invisible’ hurdle they just passed.
Fred now sees the girls as his children… not nieces he has been saddled with… and they now see him as their dad.
there simply is not a better ideal. That social worker may not agree, but I figure Fred, the girls, and Dacey (yes, I expect her return when she hears about what this social worker will try to do) will set her straight.
I rather hate this portrayal of social workers, but there are indeed some things they MUST do which sometimes seem to be exactly this. I know Berg and company didn’t want to say ALL social workers are like this, but it must be said…
MOST SOCIAL WORKERS TRULY CARE ABOUT THE FAMILIES THEY WATCH OVER. They would not do that job if they didn’t.
Well yeah. Mrs. Zellner isn’t intended to be a representation of social workers in general, she is just an individual with a less than loving personality. Now – I HAVE heard horror stories of social workers who were all too happy to “help” kids who didn’t need it by removing them from their loving families, but obviously that is not the norm.
I thought I made it clear I understood that was not your intent.
I have also heard some horror stories about those ‘loving families’.
Being a ‘family counselor’ (as the occupation is called in some parts) has got to be the sort of job you wouldn’t do unless you see an extreme need for it.
Coming back to read this again years later… this discussion still resounds greatly with me.
Especially our obvious agreement on the motivations of most social workers.
He could’ve used that stick to fight of Zellner, or can she only be killed by silver?
Well on the other hand, now he can keep her at bay by holding it up and forming a cross with it.
Or use the pointed ends and pierces the beasts heart!
I have to admit though, this is a strange heirloom to pass down through family generations. Seriously was his great great great great grandfather an 19th century school teacher?
What inspired this page? Just it is a little strange.
Well really the idea originally was to get across the idea that Fred’s mother might not have been the gentlest of parents. It’s been a long time since I wrote the script for this page, though. I re-wrote it somewhat to fit in better with the current goings-on in the comic.
Fair enough, not the worst thing I have heard used to punish kids in fiction.
In borderlands there is a weapon called “Grandma’s Buzz axe,” which is a weapon that was used to punish handsome Jack “The Buzz Axe is a disciplinary weapon used by Handsome Jack’s grandmother. About as painful as it looks.”
It is basically a circular saw axe XD
*shudder*
Borderlands is a violent game XD
This ought to be an interesting moment in T.T.T History.
Mmmmaybe….
Fred is more humane than his mother. I like that.
Children do need discipline and ‘spanking’ is a tradition that is acceptable and all, but some parents get carried away with the feeling of power they get from it. It is particularly the case when the parent feels they have no power on the rest of their life.
The problem is exactly that… parents need ‘self-discipline’ before they can administer ‘discipline’ to their offspring.
As many times as I disagree with the self-proclaimed experts on many subjects (particularly on moral issues), that statement needs no argument.
I like particularly the ‘invisible’ hurdle they just passed.
Fred now sees the girls as his children… not nieces he has been saddled with… and they now see him as their dad.
there simply is not a better ideal. That social worker may not agree, but I figure Fred, the girls, and Dacey (yes, I expect her return when she hears about what this social worker will try to do) will set her straight.
I rather hate this portrayal of social workers, but there are indeed some things they MUST do which sometimes seem to be exactly this. I know Berg and company didn’t want to say ALL social workers are like this, but it must be said…
MOST SOCIAL WORKERS TRULY CARE ABOUT THE FAMILIES THEY WATCH OVER. They would not do that job if they didn’t.
Well yeah. Mrs. Zellner isn’t intended to be a representation of social workers in general, she is just an individual with a less than loving personality. Now – I HAVE heard horror stories of social workers who were all too happy to “help” kids who didn’t need it by removing them from their loving families, but obviously that is not the norm.
I thought I made it clear I understood that was not your intent.
I have also heard some horror stories about those ‘loving families’.
Being a ‘family counselor’ (as the occupation is called in some parts) has got to be the sort of job you wouldn’t do unless you see an extreme need for it.
Coming back to read this again years later… this discussion still resounds greatly with me.
Especially our obvious agreement on the motivations of most social workers.
After “attic”, this is the cane’s 2nd role. Both were very wretched.